Symbolic icons in app menu -- not ready for F22

[Michael Catanzaro]

I sent this to the wrong desktop list earlier today [1]. Trying
again....

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[drago01]

Post by Michael Catanzaro
I sent this to the wrong desktop list earlier today [1]. Trying
again....
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ttps://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-April/msg00028.html
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:48:10 -0500
Subject: Symbolic icons in app menu -- not ready for F22
Hi,
Currently, half our apps use nice symbolic icons in the app menu,
while the other half use shrunken hicolor icons. This inconsistency is
a poor user experience, and not something that should happen in a
serious operating system. Progress is being tracked at [1] under the
column 3.16 status, but it's clearly not going to be finished prior to
the F22.
I don't think this change is ready for Fedora (or other distros -- the
change should have been delayed until GNOME 3.18). We should wait
until at least all the apps we install by default have symbolic icons
before making this switch. Ideally [1] would be completed as well. I
a) Reverting the change to use symbolic icons for the app menu in a
downstream patch. This would involve reverting upstream commit [2].
b) Integrating symbolic icons for those apps in downstream patches.
This would be more work, but at least patches already exist (thanks
Jakub!) for nearly all GNOME apps, even though a few have been
rejected upstream. We would still need icons for devassistant and
setroubleshoot, though.

As long as "those apps" is only a subset of available apps the
inconsistency will remain. So while this would improve it it won't
really "fix" it.

[Michael Catanzaro]

Post by Michael Catanzaro
a) Reverting the change to use symbolic icons for the app menu in a
downstream patch. This would involve reverting upstream commit [2].

Scratch build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9567510

It doesn't look as good as F21 since the icons are shrunken (perhaps a
gnome-shell developer could help with that?), but I propose we go with
this for F22 unless upstream addresses this better.

[Michael Catanzaro]

Hi,

At the working group meeting today we agreed to attempt to upstream
symbolic icons where possible, and apply downstream patches where need
be. Here is a list of applications installed by default in F22 that
are missing symbolic icons. I have BCCed a few maintainers. If you are
on BCC you'll find one of your apps below: most likely you have a
patch in from Jakub in Bugzilla that you have not applied, but perhaps
you haven't released since applying the patch, or perhaps did not
backport the change to the gnome-3-16 branch (please do so!). Another
possibility is that we missed your release and just don't have it in
Fedora yet. The symbolic icons are used in the app menu and so are
necessary for your application to integrate properly with GNOME 3.16.

Boxes
DevAssistant
Disks (gnome-disk-utility)
Document Viewer (evince)
Empathy
Firefox
Font Viewer
Image Viewer (eog)
Install to Hard Drive (anaconda)
LibreOffice Calc
LibreOffice Draw
LibreOffice Impress
LibreOffice Writer
Notes
Passwords and Keys (seahorse)
Shotwell
Transmission
Videos
Weather
Problem Reporting (abrt)
Screen Reader (orca)

All of the GNOME apps above have patches in Bugzilla, so we will
either push them upstream if maintainers are unresponsive or perhaps
apply them downstream if need be. The following apps may be more
problematic, because I am not sure whether or not symbolic icons exist
for those applications:

DevAssistant
Firefox
Install to Hard Drive
LibreOffice Calc
LibreOffice Draw
LibreOffice Impress
LibreOffice Writer
Problem Reporting (abrt)
Shotwell

Jakub, have you by chance created icons for any of these apps?

For Firefox, we need to compose a nice request to <
***@mozilla.com> explaining that their color icon displays very
poorly in our environment.

Michael

[Paul W. Frields]

Post by Michael Catanzaro
All of the GNOME apps above have patches in Bugzilla, so we will
either push them upstream if maintainers are unresponsive or perhaps
apply them downstream if need be. The following apps may be more
problematic, because I am not sure whether or not symbolic icons exist
DevAssistant

mhroncok said the DA guys are rolling a new release next week and
would be happy to include a new icon, if Jakub or someone else can
provide one.

Post by Michael Catanzaro
Firefox
Install to Hard Drive
LibreOffice Calc
LibreOffice Draw
LibreOffice Impress
LibreOffice Writer
Problem Reporting (abrt)
Shotwell
Jakub, have you by chance created icons for any of these apps?
For Firefox, we need to compose a nice request to
very poorly in our environment.

As I mentioned, I'll send this email.

[Michael Catanzaro]

Correction: we are missing an icon for Boxes as well:

Boxes
DevAssistant
Firefox
Install to Hard Drive
LibreOffice Calc
LibreOffice Draw
LibreOffice Impress
LibreOffice Writer
Problem Reporting (abrt)
Shotwell

[Michael Catanzaro]

Hi Michael,
Icons for the apps exist, but it's actually more work to provide a
patch than it is to create the icon itself. The symbolic app icons
live here - https://github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome
-icons/tree/master/apps-symbolic

Thanks! I think the only icon we are missing is devassistant. Any
chance you would be able to take care of that one? If we only have one
app missing an icon on release day, that is OK, but it would be dandy
if we could get to that last one.

I will try to handle these using Jakub's icons:

Boxes
Install to Hard Drive
LibreOffice Calc
LibreOffice Draw
LibreOffice Impress
LibreOffice Writer
Problem Reporting (abrt)
Shotwell

[Michael Catanzaro]

These now have symbolic icons in upstream git, awaiting a new 3.16 release:

Disks
Document Viewer
Empathy
Notes
Passwords and Keys
Videos
Screen Reader

The Font Viewer icon is in adwaita-icon-theme git. We need a 3.16
release there.

Weather had a symbolic icon release today, thanks Giovanni!

Boxes: https:/bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748551
DevAssistant: https://github.com/devassistant/devassistant LibreOffice: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1215800
Image Viewer (eog): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746842

Firefox: Paul requested trademark approval

Shotwell: We delete the upstream icons, so I added the symbolic
downstream, but the build is blocked on libgexiv2, which is broken;
contacted the maintainer. See also
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717326

TODO:

Install to Hard Drive (anaconda)
Transmission

[Matthias Clasen]

Post by Michael Catanzaro
Disks
Document Viewer
Empathy
Notes
Passwords and Keys
Videos
Screen Reader

I've done Brasero and Hitori.